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Episode 164

What the Science Really Says About Ketogenic Diets and Heart Health

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Bret Scher, MD

Bret Scher, MD

Medical Director, Metabolic Mind and Baszucki Group

Bret is the host of the Metabolic Mind YouTube channel and podcast. He is a board-certified cardiologist, lipidologist, and leading expert in therapeutic uses of metabolic therapies, including ketogenic diets. Prior to joining Baszucki Group, Bret was the medical director at DietDoctor.com, an online platform promoting improving metabolic health through low-carb nutrition, where he was a content creator and medical reviewer. Earlier in his career, he worked as a cardiologist in San Diego. Bret has spent most of his 20-year career as a preventive cardiologist, helping people improve their metabolic health and preventing heart disease using low-carb nutrition and lifestyle interventions. His deep passion for educating the public about the benefits of metabolic therapies grew from his experience with the prevailing medical teaching, which frequently misrepresents nutrition science and undervalues metabolic health. Bret received an MD from The Ohio State University College of Medicine and a BS in Biology from Stanford University. He grew up in San Diego and began competing in triathlons at an early age, which helped fuel his love of health and fitness. He continues to enjoy spending time outdoors mountain biking, swimming, hiking, and playing baseball with his two boys.
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Bret Scher, MD

Medical Director, Metabolic Mind and Baszucki Group

Bret is the host of the Metabolic Mind YouTube channel and podcast. He is a board-certified cardiologist, lipidologist, and leading expert in therapeutic uses of metabolic therapies, including ketogenic diets. Prior to joining Baszucki Group, Bret was the medical director at DietDoctor.com, an online platform promoting improving metabolic health through low-carb nutrition, where he was a content creator and medical reviewer. Earlier in his career, he worked as a cardiologist in San Diego. Bret has spent most of his 20-year career as a preventive cardiologist, helping people improve their metabolic health and preventing heart disease using low-carb nutrition and lifestyle interventions. His deep passion for educating the public about the benefits of metabolic therapies grew from his experience with the prevailing medical teaching, which frequently misrepresents nutrition science and undervalues metabolic health. Bret received an MD from The Ohio State University College of Medicine and a BS in Biology from Stanford University. He grew up in San Diego and began competing in triathlons at an early age, which helped fuel his love of health and fitness. He continues to enjoy spending time outdoors mountain biking, swimming, hiking, and playing baseball with his two boys.
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Key Highlights

  • Dr. Bret Scher challenges the common claim that ketogenic diets are harmful to heart health, explaining that many studies making this claim are not actually studying true ketogenic diets with sufficiently low carbohydrate intake.
  • He clarifies that LDL cholesterol does not increase in everyone on a ketogenic diet, and while some individuals may see a rise, most people experience no change or improvements alongside significant gains in other cardiovascular risk markers.
  • Dr. Scher emphasizes that ketogenic diets consistently improve metabolic health, including lowering triglycerides, raising HDL, improving insulin resistance, reducing inflammation, and even helping reverse type 2 diabetes, all of which are critical for heart health.
  • He explains that ketogenic diets do not have to be high in saturated fat and highlights that the impact of saturated fat depends heavily on the dietary context, differing greatly between whole food low-carb diets and processed high-carb diets.
  • Dr. Scher concludes that metabolic health is foundational to cardiovascular health and that properly implemented ketogenic diets can support heart health for many people, though individual monitoring and clinical guidance remain important.

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