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Episode 207

Triglycerides Down, Plaque Unchanged: What This Trial Reveals

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Bret Scher, MD

Bret Scher, MD

Medical Director, Metabolic Mind and Baszucki Group

Bret is the host of the Metabolic Mind YouTube channel and podcast. He is a board-certified cardiologist, lipidologist, and leading expert in therapeutic uses of metabolic therapies, including ketogenic diets. Prior to joining Baszucki Group, Bret was the medical director at DietDoctor.com, an online platform promoting improving metabolic health through low-carb nutrition, where he was a content creator and medical reviewer. Earlier in his career, he worked as a cardiologist in San Diego. Bret has spent most of his 20-year career as a preventive cardiologist, helping people improve their metabolic health and preventing heart disease using low-carb nutrition and lifestyle interventions. His deep passion for educating the public about the benefits of metabolic therapies grew from his experience with the prevailing medical teaching, which frequently misrepresents nutrition science and undervalues metabolic health. Bret received an MD from The Ohio State University College of Medicine and a BS in Biology from Stanford University. He grew up in San Diego and began competing in triathlons at an early age, which helped fuel his love of health and fitness. He continues to enjoy spending time outdoors mountain biking, swimming, hiking, and playing baseball with his two boys.
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Bret Scher, MD

Medical Director, Metabolic Mind and Baszucki Group

Bret is the host of the Metabolic Mind YouTube channel and podcast. He is a board-certified cardiologist, lipidologist, and leading expert in therapeutic uses of metabolic therapies, including ketogenic diets. Prior to joining Baszucki Group, Bret was the medical director at DietDoctor.com, an online platform promoting improving metabolic health through low-carb nutrition, where he was a content creator and medical reviewer. Earlier in his career, he worked as a cardiologist in San Diego. Bret has spent most of his 20-year career as a preventive cardiologist, helping people improve their metabolic health and preventing heart disease using low-carb nutrition and lifestyle interventions. His deep passion for educating the public about the benefits of metabolic therapies grew from his experience with the prevailing medical teaching, which frequently misrepresents nutrition science and undervalues metabolic health. Bret received an MD from The Ohio State University College of Medicine and a BS in Biology from Stanford University. He grew up in San Diego and began competing in triathlons at an early age, which helped fuel his love of health and fitness. He continues to enjoy spending time outdoors mountain biking, swimming, hiking, and playing baseball with his two boys.
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Key Highlights

  • A new clinical trial found that olezarsen, a drug targeting ApoC-III, significantly lowered triglycerides, remnant cholesterol, and ApoB, yet produced no measurable reduction in coronary artery plaque compared to placebo.
  • Dr. Bret Scher argues this reveals a broader issue: lowering a lab number with medication isn’t the same as fixing the underlying metabolic dysfunction and insulin resistance that caused the number to be abnormal in the first place.
  • He draws parallels to other conditions, noting that blood sugar medications, blood pressure drugs, and weight-loss medications can all improve a specific number while leaving the root metabolic, lifestyle, or behavioral causes unaddressed.
  • A drug-first approach risks narrowing clinical thinking by discouraging exploration of why a marker became abnormal, when diet, exercise, sleep, and stress interact in ways no single medication can replicate.
  • The episode isn’t anti-medication, but argues the best outcomes come from asking why a symptom or abnormal marker exists and combining targeted medication with meaningful lifestyle change rather than treating the drug as a complete solution.

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