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Episode 219

Setting the Record Straight on NATURE-CT and Ketogenic Diets

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Bret Scher, MD

Bret Scher, MD

Medical Director, Metabolic Mind and Baszucki Group

Bret is the host of the Metabolic Mind YouTube channel and podcast. He is a board-certified cardiologist, lipidologist, and leading expert in therapeutic uses of metabolic therapies, including ketogenic diets. Prior to joining Baszucki Group, Bret was the medical director at DietDoctor.com, an online platform promoting improving metabolic health through low-carb nutrition, where he was a content creator and medical reviewer. Earlier in his career, he worked as a cardiologist in San Diego. Bret has spent most of his 20-year career as a preventive cardiologist, helping people improve their metabolic health and preventing heart disease using low-carb nutrition and lifestyle interventions. His deep passion for educating the public about the benefits of metabolic therapies grew from his experience with the prevailing medical teaching, which frequently misrepresents nutrition science and undervalues metabolic health. Bret received an MD from The Ohio State University College of Medicine and a BS in Biology from Stanford University. He grew up in San Diego and began competing in triathlons at an early age, which helped fuel his love of health and fitness. He continues to enjoy spending time outdoors mountain biking, swimming, hiking, and playing baseball with his two boys.
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Bret Scher, MD

Medical Director, Metabolic Mind and Baszucki Group

Bret is the host of the Metabolic Mind YouTube channel and podcast. He is a board-certified cardiologist, lipidologist, and leading expert in therapeutic uses of metabolic therapies, including ketogenic diets. Prior to joining Baszucki Group, Bret was the medical director at DietDoctor.com, an online platform promoting improving metabolic health through low-carb nutrition, where he was a content creator and medical reviewer. Earlier in his career, he worked as a cardiologist in San Diego. Bret has spent most of his 20-year career as a preventive cardiologist, helping people improve their metabolic health and preventing heart disease using low-carb nutrition and lifestyle interventions. His deep passion for educating the public about the benefits of metabolic therapies grew from his experience with the prevailing medical teaching, which frequently misrepresents nutrition science and undervalues metabolic health. Bret received an MD from The Ohio State University College of Medicine and a BS in Biology from Stanford University. He grew up in San Diego and began competing in triathlons at an early age, which helped fuel his love of health and fitness. He continues to enjoy spending time outdoors mountain biking, swimming, hiking, and playing baseball with his two boys.
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Key Highlights

  • The NATURE-CT study found that coronary plaque roughly doubled over five years in low-risk, untreated adults with a mean LDL of 111 mg/dL, suggesting factors beyond LDL alone may drive plaque progression, though the study says nothing about ketogenic diets specifically.
  • Social media claims comparing NATURE-CT to the KETO-CTA study to argue keto is dangerous for heart health are scientifically invalid, since the KETO-CTA manuscript was formally retracted due to unblinded and inaccurate plaque analysis.
  • Even when a corrected, peer-reviewed version of KETO-CTA data is eventually published, comparing it directly to NATURE-CT would still require restricting to matching baseline calcium scores, since higher baseline plaque independently predicts faster progression.
  • The KETO-CTA study specifically enrolled lean mass hyper-responders, a distinct metabolic phenotype, meaning its findings can’t be fairly generalized to represent all forms of ketogenic therapy or the broader population using keto for metabolic health.
  • Dr. Scher argues there’s no single “keto diet,” since vegan, vegetarian, Mediterranean-style, and animal-based approaches can all achieve therapeutic ketosis with different nutritional profiles, making it scientifically indefensible to treat findings from one specific ketogenic phenotype as representative of ketogenic therapy overall.

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